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Question from April 10

How and why were the sacraments Baptism and Confirmation separated? If you are supposed to be baptized first, why wasn't there more of a push to make a baptism something to happen after birth for us all at the same time of confirmation?  As best we know, the three Sacraments of Initiation -- Baptism, Confirmation and Eucharist -- were originally part of one unified ritual in the early Christian communities (much as they are today for unbaptized adults who are joining the Catholic Church through the RCIA).  Early on, people were baptized, confirmed and received first Eucharist all at the same time, under the leadership of the local community leader (the equivalent of what we would call a bishop today) who "confirmed" the legitimacy of the person's baptism and admitted the newly-baptized to the Liturgy of the Eucharist. Two historical or social trends led to the gradual separation of these three sacraments.  One was the growth of the Christian community, and the fact that in many smaller communities there were no longer bishops available to confirm the baptism.  Rather than delegating this responsibility to the bishop's assistant (what today we would call a parish priest), the church decided to postpone "confirmation" until the bishop could be present and could speak on behalf of the whole local church.  The second trend evolved from the early Christian community's debate over whether children could be baptized.  The consensus which developed in the western Church was that infants and children should be baptized, but the community recognized that infants and children are not able to speak for themselves.  Over the years, it seemed logical to postpone confirmation (once separated from baptism) until the individual baptized as an infant or child was old enough to speak on his or her own behalf about their desire to be (an adult) Christian.  There has been some discussion in the Catholic Church since the Second Vatican Council about whether the three sacraments of initiation should be reunited for all ages, not just adults, and some bishops have experimented with different arrangements and different ages.  A consensus has not developed, however, and for now the Church has preserved the practice of postponing confirmation for individuals baptized as infants and children.
-- Dave Cushing (04/12)


Question from March 27

Is it wrong for a Catholic to believe the majority of the world is eschatalogical?  The short answer to this question is, not necessarily, if by "the majority of the world" you mean the way the world mostly is. The fact is that at any given time this world is a combination of both the Eschatalogical and Incarnational principles, and under any given circumstances, it may be more or less one or the other.  Individuals (and theologians) may disagree, according to their experience and perception, of how much there is of one or the other. The Catholic worldview always incorporates both the Eschatalogical and Incarnational worldviews, although it may lean ultimately more toward the Incarnational view. This is because the broader Catholic tradition, rooted in the Gospel testimony, recognizes that the Incarnation of Jesus Christ (his life, death and resurrection) was a decisive event in the history of God's relationship to Creation and to humankind.  The Incarnation initiated a new phase in this relationship, one in which this world is gradually being redeemed and transformed, leading toward the Kingdom of God (which, in the end, will finally be realized outside of time and space).  So the Incarnational view is always one which will be fulfilled in the future -- a reality we dream about and hope for. The real question is not so much how the world is today, but how it could be, should be, or one day will be. The power of the Incarnational worldview is that it draws us further and further into the new reality which is gradually but surely unfolding by the grace of God, even though we may be limited for the time being in our ability to experience that New Creation more fully. The more we realize what Jesus accomplished by his life, death and resurrection, the more likely we are to allow the Incarnational vision to guide our lives as individuals and as a community.
-- Dave Cushing (03/12) 

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